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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2012, 03:02:51 AM »
Alright, now we're getting somewhere. As you've explained it, you must have renamed the newly created volumes allowing Windows to assign the letters by default...but you did things a bit out of order.

For Windows to have ended up with the drive letter assignment the way it has, this is what you must have done:

1) You resized disk 1 first, while the CD/DVD drive was still using "E:" as it's label. This left the drive letter assignment as F:\ for a default naming when you created your partition on the available free space.

2) Next, you resized disk 0. Realized the next drive letter available was "G". I believe it was then you changed the CD/DVD drive so you could free up the letter "E" for assignment by default, when you created this partition.

This would have resulted in these assignments:

Disk 0
C:\
E:

Disk 1
D:\
F:\


In it's original configuration, Windows would not have offered up C,D, or E as an available drive letter assignment since they're already in use.

While attempting to name any volume as "D", when disk 2 is already using it, you would have failed...because Windows next drive letter assignment would have been "F". See what I mean?


Your original claim is that, in spite of what you thought YOU did, Windows presents it's drive letter assignment as:
Disk 0
C:\
E:\

...and
Disk 1
D:\
F:\

...and this falls right in line with what you said about how the disks appeared from the factory. Disk 0 is where Windows resides, labeled C:\, disk 1 was labeled D:\...and the CD/DVD drive was labeled E:

So it appears, that you tried renaming the newly created partitions while disk 1 and disk 2 "still" had their original drive letter assignments. The only drive letter that you evidently were successful in renaming was the CD/DVD drive letter.

As it is now, it should be a simple task to rename the volumes to suit your wishes. The CD/DVD drive letter can be left as is, and to rename volume two and four can be achieved easily enough.

Change the drive letter assignment on disk 1 first. Assign the letter "H" to the D:\ drive and reboot twice. This will free up the drive letter "D" so that you can reassign it to partition two on disk 0.

Remember to reboot twice more after you've renamed disk 0, partition two. At this point you should have:
Disk 0
C:\
D:\

Disk 1
H:\
F:\

Now to work on disk 1...just change the drive letter "H" to "E" and reboot twice.

Result should be what you want.
Disk 0
C:\
D:\

...and
Disk 1
E:\
F:\

...and with the CD/DVD drive already named G: then you have your alphabetized disk arrangement the way you wanted.
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2012, 03:47:39 AM »
Mystery solved!  Thanks.  Once I go through the rename process what do I have to do in order to have my Libraries saved to the D: partition? So that each time I create a document in Word or Excel it is saved on D:?

I don't see the merge folder option, but I haven't tried that as an administrator.  I'll experiment later on today.  Thanks for the info.


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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #17 on: May 17, 2012, 05:00:12 AM »
I changed the drive letters no problem.

If you can explain how to get any Documents I create to go into a file on D by default that would be great. Also if there is a way to move the Library file to D: that would be even better.  Thanks

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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #18 on: May 17, 2012, 05:30:00 AM »
You are using "D" for storage I assume. Windows can see your other partitions and would treat them as folders. In other words, after you create a document, you click that documents "file" option from the menu at the top. From there, you can select "Save as". When you do that, the "Save as" Windows navigation pane opens for you. From there, you select yourself, where you want to save it. At that point, you would be able to easily navigate to your D:\ partition and select whatever folder you created there for saving your documents. If you create a document then have need to use it continually for recording something else...adding to it that is, such as with a spread sheet, then your best plan there would just be to create a short cut to THAT document file. Place that shortcut somewhere on your C:\ drive, then each time you make some change using that short cut, those changes will automatically be recorded to the original document.

Question...what "Library file" are you referring to? When I think of library files, I think of the collection of resources used by a piece of software. Those resources need to be called upon in order for the program to function as designed. The ingenius way in which programmers write code for library and executable files encourages itself to share code and data in a modualr fashion...and this is achieved via a link that both will reference. That link is also known as a dynamic link library file...or you may know it as a ".dll" file.

Certainly, this isn't what you are referring to is it?
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #19 on: May 17, 2012, 05:42:43 AM »
That's how I save documents so I'll just continue doing it the same.

The Libraries I am referring to are located at: Click on my computer, on the left you'll see favorites etc.

Below that Libraries:
Documents
Music
Pictures
Videos
They reside on the C: drive, I'd like to move that to D, not copy but actually move it to D:


Another question: Since I made the name changes to the partitions, my Image that I created as a backup would have to be redone?  If I need to restore from it, it has a copy of the botched partitions, so should I delete that Image and make a new Image of the C: drive, or can I leave that alone? 

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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2012, 06:55:42 AM »
That's how I save documents so I'll just continue doing it the same.

The Libraries I am referring to are located at: Click on my computer, on the left you'll see favorites etc.

Below that Libraries:
Documents
Music
Pictures
Videos
They reside on the C: drive, I'd like to move that to D, not copy but actually move it to D:


Another question: Since I made the name changes to the partitions, my Image that I created as a backup would have to be redone?  If I need to restore from it, it has a copy of the botched partitions, so should I delete that Image and make a new Image of the C: drive, or can I leave that alone? 
As to the "library" folders you want to move, I should clarify something I said earlier...which was that Windows wouldn't allow it. That's not entirely what I meant. In fact the way that reads is actually dead wrong.

You can move them, you just can't delete them...now why would one want to do that lol...Lemme tell ya.
I had developed a habit of ignoring the Windows "documents, music, video" folders and creating my own folders, then wanting to delete the originals. That's what Windows wouldn't allow lol...so, forgive my "mis-speak" there. You can also see, I've grown accustomed to referring to these as "Documents and Settings", which was their title in the old Windows XP operating system.

So anyway, since it seems you want to keep the folders that Windows created, then moving them is just a matter of navigation. What you should do first is to create the folder where you want them moved. Next, navigate to:
C:\Users\You User Profile Name...there you'll see your documents, music, and video folders. To move them, just right-click each one, then select "Properties". In the properties box, click the "Location" tab. There, you'll click the Move button and navigate to the folder you created.

hint:
don't try to navigate there using any other method. Simply right-clicking on "My Computer" and trying to right-click the listed "library" folders there won't yield the same result you're looking for...if you try this, you'll find that you won't be able to locate a "Location" tab in the properties box.

I'd always opted to just ignore those folders. Empty, each is only 4kb which is a virtual wisp of smoke, so I always just left them alone and created the folders I wanted to use on my storage partition.

To address your concern about the image file, you should delete those for all other partitions but Windows. The Windows partition hasn't changed since you installed it...it's still C and it's still the same 50 gig size so that one should be fine.
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2012, 07:46:13 AM »
I wanted to do exactly what you mentioned and found I wasn't allowed, LOL. We think alike.  I have it set up the way I want now.

In my question regarding the Image I created, let me ask it another way. Before windows saw disk 0 as drive C and E. Disk 1 was D and F.
Now disk 0 is drive C and D. Disk 1 is E and F.  Since the registry is stored in the Image I created of the C drive if I restored from that will things get mixed up?  I only create an Image of the C drive, everything else is a simple copy paste of folders to the F drive.

It is easy enough to create another image and call it a day, I'm just asking to learn.

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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2012, 01:20:10 PM »
I wanted to do exactly what you mentioned and found I wasn't allowed, LOL. We think alike.  I have it set up the way I want now.

In my question regarding the Image I created, let me ask it another way. Before windows saw disk 0 as drive C and E. Disk 1 was D and F.
Now disk 0 is drive C and D. Disk 1 is E and F.  Since the registry is stored in the Image I created of the C drive if I restored from that will things get mixed up?  I only create an Image of the C drive, everything else is a simple copy paste of folders to the F drive.

It is easy enough to create another image and call it a day, I'm just asking to learn.

Thanks!
I see what you're getting at now...I was under the impression with your question that your only concern was whether or not the system would boot from the image file you have. Naturally, you would want to keep what configuration you now have all the same. While an image file you made previously would indeed restore the system, it would complicate things if you did. So, since your best plan is to keep things in order, I would delete that image in favor of a new one taken from the current setup.
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2012, 04:05:08 PM »
So I set everything up and wanted to create an Image of the C drive to store on my F drive in the event of a problem.  Now it tells me there isn't enough space to store the image. I need about 14 GB for the image and have 200 GB free space. Another reboot fixed it. Why?
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2012, 04:33:45 PM »
There could have been a couple reasons. Since a reboot fixed it, I would suspect a combination of temp space, RAM...but more likely disk fragmentation is a bigger concern.

When I want to create a new image file, the first thing I do is a disk cleanup and defrag...then a reboot and THEN create my image. Even with all that, when the newly created image is finished, another check of the disk condition reveals a total disk fragmentation of anywhere between 15 and 43%. That's way too much so...another defrag is in order when you finish up as well.
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2012, 04:56:51 PM »
Before I create an Image  of my C: drive I do a Virus Scan, Super anti-spyware scan, run CCleaner and do a disk defrag. Which is what I did this time as well. Odd, but it worked out OK.

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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2012, 05:02:31 PM »
Chalk it up as a Windows anomaly. One thing I always advise users is that when things get a bit quirky, Windows is very good about resolving most of these with a simple reboot. Remember that...well worth the effort.

I couldn't tell you how many times I lodged some complaint with the IT folks at work (back in the day) about some odd behavior and received the same advice. I actually think IT folks rely on it as their first choice pat answer. I have to agree...9 time out of 10, things worked out fine.
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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2012, 08:23:48 PM »
In the aviation community we called it a rerack. Just the simple act of disconnecting a part from all electrical connectors and reconnecting them fixed so many problems it was actually an accepted maintenance procedure. I know this also works with mechanical items as well. Take something apart and put it together and all is well.

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Re: Is this a problem?
« Reply #28 on: May 18, 2012, 04:01:50 AM »
I've done it engines some times a little dirt on a connection can louse things up. A simple unplug and reconnect of an electrical connection can save a lot of money.